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Saturday, March 07, 2009

The Jeff Frederick Saga - The Rage

Chris the Mason Conservative has posted what many of those I am talking to are also saying.

I don't know where to start with my thoughts, its a bit scatter-shot right now. On the one hand, I am incredibly furious that a roving band of 64 would overturn the will of the Convention of 2008. I was a part of that Convention, and as a Frederick supporter at said convention I feel betrayed by my own party. I'm an activist, supposedly that means I'm a "real" Republican, so its stunning to me that 64 souls on state central would, basically, overturn my vote. If conventions are undemocratic in nature (and they are) what is this? What is state central saying to the thousands of activists who have now basically wasted their time going to their unit meetings and local conventions and mass meetings? We spoke, and we elected Jeff Frederick Chairman of the RPV. Plain and simple, and for those who don't like Jeff, for the most part I say "tough sh*t", put up someone else next time around. Then there is the question of precedence, and what this says about the internal system for the RPV? You don't get your way in a undemocratic convention, so you go even more undemocratic and use 64 people to overturn the will of thousands? And what happens when the "moderates" get their way and conservatives pull this crap?

Indeed. Now go read it all.

Too Conservative offers another view. The post is complete with emails Frederick sent to SCC.

The Party is at a Defining Moment. Ever watch a dog chasing its tail and the surprised look on its face when he catches it and chomps down? A good friend said that about the RPV. We we never learn?

Comments on "The Jeff Frederick Saga - The Rage"

 

Anonymous Loudoun Insider said ... (12:12 PM) : 

We should have learned before electing a twerp with a Napoleonic Complex Chairman of RPV. It's time for adult supervision.

 

Blogger Carl Kilo said ... (12:54 PM) : 

I can see both sides of this argument LI. What a mess.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:08 PM) : 

who will the new chairman be? thelma drake?

 

Blogger James Atticus Bowden said ... (7:28 PM) : 

Here are several things to consider.

1. Jeff isn't the problem in the RPV. He may have made errors and really truly pissed off some people I respect highly and trust completely as Conservatives and Patriots. But, Jeff's name recognition across VA is less than 5% - wanna bet? Defeat after defeat in Virginia is EARNED by the official behavior of our elected Republican officials - not by the party hierarchy.

2. When a cabal of a few score takes it upon itself to go undo the results of a legal convention of over five thousand, then follow the money and track the who-shot-john to see who wins and who loses with Jeff gone.

3.Who replaces Jeff to what end? Is it important to put the RPV back in the business of serving as the extension of the campaign of the biggest dogs in statewide politics?

4.What principles lead the leaders of the lynch mob to keep the letter secret from some members of SCC - like me - and to refuse to share the names of who they want to replace Jeff? Sneaky is as sneaky does. So, why the super double secret middle school politics of exclusion, stone-walling and silence? Who is making what decisions - to form and direct this coup?

 

Blogger Charlie Fugate said ... (8:11 PM) : 

I have to agree Jim. Those are the questions that need to be asked. Ultimately, it is very dubious considering that a legal call for a convention that was evidently conducted according to both state law and party rules.

What really concerns me is the proximity of this little grandstand this close to the Convention. If issues were so pressing that Jeff Frederick could not be examined by the convention in the process of its convention business. Why now and why did it start with the SCC? These may seem to be very trivial questions, but I belive they are vital to understanding the situation.

 

Anonymous Loudoun Insider said ... (9:00 PM) : 

JAB, you have valid points, but Frederick is no saint. I know you are a very religious man, and i have never seen anything but the highest level of ethics and morality from you. Ask around and see how many times Frederick has lied to people, or been sued for that matter. He is a false prophet of conservatism, only out for himself. I would be perfectly happy with a real man of honor such as yourself as RPV Chairman. Frederick can't hold a candle to your real principles.

 

Blogger Carl Kilo said ... (9:35 PM) : 

I can support JAB for chairman!

I see many problems with this. Best case Frederick will step down, if not he is removed...But does that really cure the root problem? No.
Unless SCC addresses the root, and they are the only ones that can, we are back to the same old same. I know you three know what i am saying.
The chair has too much power IMHO.

 

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